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From: FrodoGem Date: Sun Nov 14 18:51:15 2004 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== As the person that said that I would like to try methanol, I absolutely agree with Margaret and other respondents to the Denatured Alcohol thread that methanol is poisonous. We should educate ourselves about all of the toxic chemicals we use around the studio. However, my preference is to use toxic chemicals when necessary but to try to limit my exposure to safer levels. I want to stress a disclaimer here: do not depend on the information here for your own safety...it is written to help you get started thinking about the subject of toxicology rather than as the last word in the subject. Read the instructions and be responsible for learning the properties of what you are working with. With this in mind, I want to provide a bit of information about toxicity in general and about methanol specifically: Chronic Exposure & Chronic Effects: Refer to the effects repeated long term exposure, usually to lower levels of a toxin. Establishing cause-effect relationships for long term exposure is difficult because of all of the different factors that can contribute to the effects being studied. The diseases associated with tobacco smoking are good examples of chronic effects. I was not able to find much information about the chronic effects of methanol exposure. Material Safety Data Sheets often fail to address chronic effects because of the expense and difficulty in gathering sufficient statistical information to eliminate other enviornmental factors. Liver damage in plastics workers after long term exposure to vinyl chloride is an example of the successful study and regulation of a chronic environmental contaminant. Acute Exposure & Effects: Refer to the effects of a single or short term exposure where the effects can be observed during, or a short time after exposure. Blindness or death after exposure to methanol is an example of an acute effect. The response after a measured dose of toxin is far easier to determine with studies of acute effects. LD50 This refers to the dose at which 50% of the subjects in the experiment died. Since we don't experment on humans, LD50 information is usually for rats, rabbits, etc. LD50 is expressed in weight of toxin per unit weight of subject. [Example: LD50 (for some imaginary toxin) = .01 mg toxin/kg body weight.] Sometimes after an accident, enough information is collected that an LD50 can be established for humans. LD50 refers to acute exposure, not chronic exposure. Irritant: I include this because of an error I made many years ago that left me sick for several weeks...the label said irritant, I though "So What?" Irritants can kill you. Example: Chlorine gas is an irritant. Inhalation will kill you. Ferric chloride is an irritant...don't inhale irritant gases or dusts... I am including some information I found on the internet about acute exposure to methanol. I did not collect the URLs of the sites that I visitied but used a google search for terms like Methanol Toxicity etc. Please do not depend on this information to expose yourself to Methanol...do your own research: Skin Absorbtion rate: 0.192 mg/sq cm/minute (comment...skin absorbtion rate can vary by a factor of 50 depending on where on the body it is located. If I remember my college coursework correctly, you should be more worried about spilling methanol in your lap than the soles of your feet.) My reaction to a spill (usual disclaimer) would be to get away from any flame, remove my contaminated clothing and flush the affected area with water. Contact poision control. I would not be personally concerned about a small quantity on my fingers so long as it was rare and washed off immediately. More on skin...lower doses cause dryness and cracking of skin...the methanol, like many organic contaminants enters the body by breaking down the lipids in the skin. Contamination of methanol by other degreasing agents such as toluene (and I presume acetone) will cause faster skin absorption. Organic contaminants are typically absorbed faster on a second exposure than the first because the lipids in the skin have already been compromised by the first exposure. Lethal dose (ingested) 30 to 240 ml. (Keep in mind that susceptablility varies between people depending on body weight and many other factors. You absolutely don't want to go for the new record for sucseptablity.) Has been observed to cause blindness: (ingested) 15 ml density: 0.795 g/ml at 19 degrees C. Permissable exposure limit (PEL, air) 200 ppm (please confirm this if you use it) I personally would not want to expose myself to levels anywhere near this limit on a chronic basis. Too little is known about the chronic effects of this toxin. Again...this is to get you thinking about doing your own research into the chemicals you use then making your own decisions as the whether and how you use them. I can't stress too much that safe acute levels are not necessarily safe chronic levels. How we limit our exposure to chronic levels of toxins is a personal decision we must all make. Chronic contaminants are all around us everywhere we go. People tend to accept higher levels of voluntary exposure than involuntary exposure. Example, most people would accept a higher risk in their studio than from their drinking water or from air pollution. Having studied many environmental risks in my professional career, I am willing to accept small risks to continue doing the work I love. (I better close this before I get into a long discussion of risk/cost/benefit relationships). Remember, if you don't know what you are doing with chemicals, learn or don't do it. Howard Woods Eagle Idaho ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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