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From: FrodoGem Date: Thu Nov 11 19:20:35 2004 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== The word "denatured" is not very specific. I believe it means that it refers to the fact that the alcohol is, or has been rendered, poisonous, therefore not subject to tax as an alcoholic beverage. (I don't remember the origin of my belief, so treat it as a factoid) At one time, the shellac thinner I purchased at the hardware store was methanol (wood alcohol, very poisonous) In recent times, the shellac thinner is a mixture of methanol, ethanol, and acetone. The hardware guy tells me this is because methanol is used as a precursor to methamphetamine. While methanol is not illegal to possess, they have been asked to inform the police if anyone is attempting to purchase quantities of methanol. Based on the properties I saw listed in my Merck Index, Tenth Edition, I believe that boric acid would be more soluble in methanol than the current mixtures of alcohol available: "One gram dissolves in...4 ml boiling water...6 ml boiling alcohol...soly increased by HCL, citric or tartaric acids." I base my belief on the listed solubilities increasing with the polarity of the solvent. Since methanol is more polar that ethanol, the solubility should be greater in methanol. With regard to the original question, I would expect a methanol solution to give a slightly better boric acid coating than ethanol. However, how do you know that "denatured" at the pharmacy means that the alcohol is really methanol? Like many other respondants to your question, I use the hardware store stuff. One of these days, I plan to try out the methanol that Rio Grande Jeweler's supply sells. I think 5 gallons costs about $50.00 For people using alcohol as a flame coolant for their water torches, there is a difference between the various alcohols: methanol, isopropanol, and ethanol. Each produces a flame at a different temperature. Source of information: Advertising material from the Spirig company. (http://www.spirig.com/) Their chart is not on their web site but in a hardcopy document entitled OPERCOSTS04.NTE and lists the following for their brand of torch: Hydrogen-Oxygen: 3300 C. or 5972 F. H-O plus methanol 2700 C. or 4892 F. isopropanol 2500 C or 4532 F H-O plus isopropanol 2500 C. or 4532 F. H-O plus methyl ethyl ketone (methyl-ethanone or MEK) 1700 C. or 3092 F H-O plus acetone 1500 C or 2732 F. Someday, when I can afford to buy one of their torches, I plan to abandon the hardware store brew. As you can see, the mixture makes a real difference in flame properties. Howard Woods Eagle, Idaho ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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