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From: pff
Date: Wed May 26 21:14:22 2004
 
     
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>         I apologize if this topic has been addressed before, but I need
>     your wisdom and help! I'm new to the art of making rings
>     commercially and am having a heck of a time getting the right size
>     bands! 

    To measure rings with precision you need the "Bergeon" No.5235
    "Swiss Made" it is an aluminium ring stick. Beware of look a likes I
    saw one that looked great as I already have Bergeon and when I
    returned with it I found it was a knock off and it is no good.
    Bergeon also has 4 different types of measurements, U.S., European in
    mm, diameter in mm, and another one that I don't know or use. The
    British use the alphabet a whole different measurement not on the
    Bergeon. 

    I am on old professional and had to go to that one to produce our
    precision P.F.F. Ring Clasps. We make our measuring kits all to the
    Bergeon standards. 

    When I first got into producing precision mechanisms I wasn't aware
    that the bench mandrel, which I still use, was no longer good to
    measure, it is only good for rounding up rings. As I found that over
    the years it had worn down in the most popular size range. And it is
    a high quality old time one, possibly over 60 years old, the kind you
    can no longer get, today the only ones that are sold are junk from
    India, If they paid them I'm sure that they could make good ones too.

    But today tool supplies don't care and sell you junk and if you knew
    what they paid for them then you would understand why there is no
    more quality ring mandrels. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they
    pay them .25 cents per mandrel and they cost the consumer $30.00 more
    or less. They just get away with it and everybody is trying to
    measure rings to do their best and messing about. I remember having
    to be in sink with an other's mandrel to know what size he meant.
    What a waste of time doing jobs over and over just so the tool
    sellers can make greedy profits. 

    Now there must be lots out there with the same problem. But no
    longer here as I check all rings with the Swiss Bergeon ring stick.
    But have to watch for wear as well, as every time you slip a ring on
    the stick you loose a little. 

    It is aluminum after all but should last a good fifteen years
    without abuse. I have two so I can counter check periodically to be
    sure there are no changes. 

Allan Creates 
pff AT iprimus.ca
P.O. Box 51 Cote St-Luc 
Montreal, Quebec
Canada
Tel:  514-488-7553
Fax:  514-489-7299
Superringfit.com
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