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From: jake
Date: Mon May 03 21:05:37 2004
 
     
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>     Instead the guy at Rio Grande acted like I was brain damaged to
>     even ask, said he'd never even heard of trying to do such a thing
>     (you guys have, haven't you. 

    Your questions are not in the least odd. I received an email last
    year and a Mr. Powel was kind enough to describe his set up in some
    detail, several others did the same. I opted for an entirely
    different torch, so this set up was not needed. Also on the lapidary
    arts list one guy solved his problem by getting a hold of an oxygen
    generator, for would you believe $100 (normally about $1700 or so),
    this and a torch, and a propane can would have solved the problem
    satisfactory. What I now have I am happy with, I like it very much.
    (They make a point that it is designed for the professional jeweler,
    in fact can be used as such, Mr. Planert, who I got this trough, is
    a professional goldsmith, he used one exclusively for about 20 years,
    I think it works well. I had been cutting stone for some time and I
    used my club's acetylene torches, I needed something for home as I
    could not use acetylene and I solved my problem.) The set up
    mentioned by Powel in my case would not have been practical as you
    can see from below. However some others did just about the same thing
    you have done, because of that the reaction you got from the guy at
    Rio Grande was off the wall. They are usually much better than that. 

          Thank you for the comments. I live in an apartment so I can
          not store anything outside. I came to the same conclusion on
          the disposable oxy can. I think this will work and will do what
          I need it to do. I will receive it soon and will advise the
          list of my conclusions, even if they are negative, which I do
          not believe they will be.

    The bottom line is that there are a number of people who use a torch
    and have the tanks stored outside and the gas is run inside. This is
    often one way of solving zoning and safety issues, so it is not at
    all unusual. This usually causes no more of a problem than natural
    gas lines with insurance, also. Mr. Powel uses a Smith Little Torch
    and disposable propane can with a 40 CB. Ft. oxygen tank. He wrote, 

          I am very respectful of safety procedures and the need to meet
          fire codes. He mentioned, "If you wish to avoid problems at
          all. simply sit the entire soldering set up outside when you
          are not using it. Put it inside a secured, lockable, vented
          cabinet OUTSIDE.

    This as you can see was not an option for me. More than one wrote
    about running a line as you are doing inside but did not go into
    detail. Come to think of it that $100 oxygen generator and natural
    gas would probably make a nice set up for a homeowner. A disposable
    propane canister (what I am using) will not usually cause any problem
    at all, landlords, insurance, zoning, codes, etc., providing you have
    the right torch, and this is not a burnzomatic. Any solution that
    solves the situation, and delivers on all that is needed, is the
    right one for you and good luck with the project. I am sure someone
    who has done this may be able to answer a question if it should come
    up and Smith draws a blank. 


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