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From: Jim Reitze Date: Sun Feb 15 13:55:34 2004 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Yes it is an interesting conversation. And I, too, can see 2 sides. No, I don't like to spend a lot of time at the counter. Simple logistics and personality. I'm not a great 'people person', I am a pretty decent bench man. I make my money at the bench, not talking. Yes, I need the counter people. But when we get into the salary vs. contract idea, I would prefer not to be paid salary unless you are going to make it really worth my while. But I also want freedom if you are not going to pay me a salary. I won't compete with my host store, but I do want the freedom to market my own line to augment my income, or take in trade work, or something. If you want to pay me by the piece, or keep me on contract, but not give me freedom to augment my income, then you had better be able to draw enough work to keep me as busy as I want/need to be. Like everything else in life, there are 2 sides, usually both valid. The owner of our store, for reasons I won't bother getting into here, does almost no advertising. He counts on word of mouth and the established clientele. Not wise, for my money, but it is his store. The down side for me is that we don't get near as much repair business as we likely could. My forays into trying to advertise my repair services have brought in sales for him, but little for me, so with very limited resources, I have set that theory aside. Fortunately, he has no problem with my selling my wares elsewhere, or taking some trade work, so long as the store work gets priority and I don't directly compete in our local market. Works fine in most ways. Gets frustrating in others. At this point, while we still do struggle, I prefer to keep it this way because I don't feel I will be offered a salary that can compete with what I make this way. I also believe that if I am on a salary, I will be rightfully expected not to pursue my outside work, especially on store time and premises. I even recall in my first bench position after college that I was required to pull my handmade silver pieces from several local shops because I would be in competition with my employer. Now, I have a hard time seeing the competition between my relatively crude silver work and the wares of a high end guild store, but it wasn't my call. To more directly address this post, I understand an employers need to not pay a bench person so high a wage, no matter how well deserved, that he ends up being a drain on the store's income. I also understand a bench person's need to make a living wage, and I think we should be able to make an income that depends on our experience and skills, just like any other trade. I have opinions on unions that I won't go into here, but we, just like everyone else, need to make enough to be able to pay for those folks to fix our pipes and wires and cars. I guess what I feel is that if you want me on salary, locked into doing only your store's work, then you also must pay me well and provide me with enough work to make it profitable for you, too. If you can't, or won't, do it that way, then I need to be able to make some money elsewhere to support my lifestyle and family. I am a jeweler by choice, so I prefer to make my living that way, not having to augment with a part time job at Walmart or Lowes. The last place I worked on salary, I was recruited with a boatload of spectacular promises about salary and perks. What I got was a pocketful of nothing. The recruiting was nothing more than bald faced lies from a 'pillar of the community', highly respected for his supposed integrity. With the public, he was OK, but with his employees, completely different. Once I had relocated my family 1100 miles and settled in, I found my salary 20% lower than promised, my schedule much more restrictive than promised, etc, etc........ Neither side can expect to have it both ways. As a bench man, I must choose between the security of a salaried position, living up to or exceeding expectations, or I must take my own risks as a contract worker along with the freedom it gives me. As a potential employer, I must either expect to pay my help well or give them freedom to make some extra. OK, enough of a rant. Thanks folks. Jim http://www.forrest-design.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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