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From: Kevin Date: Thu Jan 15 21:58:45 2004 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== I come from an industrial chemical research background, with a strong safety culture. Making jewellery is a hobby for me. Sodium bisulphate solution can be regarded as chemically equivalent to a solution of sodium sulphate in sulphuric acid. The solution contains both sulphate and hydrogen ions, just as sulphuric acid does. As used in jewellery work for pickling it is the equivalent of dilute sulphuric acid. I use sodium bisulphate solution for pickling. I use it cold. I quench metal in plain water before putting it into the pickle. Quenching hot metal in the pickle does produce a little puff of vapour, which will contain small droplets of the active pickle ingredient. My reason for quenching in plain tap water first is to avoid risking getting these small droplets onto nearby tools and other objects in the same room. With the sizes of object I work with, and the small number of times I quench, it would not be a health hazard. I have a lid on my pickle pot, mainly to keep dust out of it. In other work situations it (vapours from quenching) could easily become a matter of concern though, as for example more frequent quenching, or when quenching larger objects. It is nothing like strong mineral acid mist that has been discussed here though. Neither is it being breathed for an eight hour shift. Warm pickle works much faster than cold. It should be warm though, not overhot. In a hobby situation there is no need for the "boiling out" sometimes mentioned in older books. In a professional workshop (by which I mean manufacturing for sale) there is likely to be a _much_ higher throughput, and real pressure for faster work. There are also Health and Safety regulations in most countries too, and these will address issues such a vapours and the possible need for air extraction. Citric acid has been mentioned here, and it certainly is safer than dilute sulphuric acid. There could be a possible concern with "nasties" growing in it, if it's cold and unused for some time. Citric acid is nothing to do with vitamin C. Sorry, but all sulphur containing compounds do _not_ attack tooth enamel. The element that sulphur seems to be being confused with is phosphorus, and it is true that match workers suffered terribly, the condition being known as "phossy jaw". It was caused really by the pure element. Compounds are a different matter. But, don't imagine that there is a problem with all phosphorus compounds. Many popular fizzy drinks contain phosphoric acid. I don't drink them, but not because of the acid. And please don't start to worry about the phosphorus in TSP used to make Prip's flux........ I realise that to folk who haven't had a chemical eduacation it can all be a bit confusing, especially with somewhat similar sounding names. I sincerely hope that this may have gone some way to clearing up some of the confusion, and perhaps allayed a few fears. Kevin (NW England, UK) ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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