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Date: Fri Dec 19 22:44:02 2003
 
     
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From: "Gerald" <gemz AT ican.net>

    Nigeria is the "world wonder of the ages", can you say F-R-A-U-D???
    S-C-A-M do not under ANY circumstances reply, your email address will
    be put into their "active" list and you will get umpteen thousands of
    requests of money, your own money! Heard of one fellow who fell for
    this "trick" he went over their, at his expense, landed and was
    grabbed by these priates and was almost killed..almost KILLED! The
    Canadian Embassy ushered him back under darkness and said "see,don't
    even think of coming back again,...you lost all of your money, your
    life is next" Gerry! 

From: David Barzilay Lord of the Rings <davidlotr AT sbcglobal.net>

    99.99% liklihood it's fraud. David Barzilay, Lord of the Rings 

From: Dee Dee <dsquared AT austin.rr.com>

    Sounds like fraud. So sad. I got a similar email but the person in
    Nigeria wanted me to air ship 3 of my pieces to his "cousin" also in
    Nigeria. I don't take credit cards directly (only through PayPal to
    verified members) so I never heard back from him when I directed him
    to pay that route. Also, since this person picked the 3 most
    expensive items on my site, that threw up a red flag. I rarely have
    - well never before - had a first time customer where money was no
    object online. Maybe in person but not online. Usually people want
    to check out the products when buying online then come back for more
    if they are happy. Thanks for including that fraud hotline phone
    number! - Dee Dee 

From: "David S. Geller" <dgeller AT bellsouth.net>

    All Nigerian stuff is fraud. 20/20 on TV has done pieces with it.
    Biggest fraud is "will you allow me to send you my 4.3 million so I
    can come to America" I'll give you 10%" 

    Stay away, it's fraud. It's stolen credit cards and the cc company
    will reverse the sale after you shipped. I've heard of bogus cashiers
    checks. 

    Ask for an American express check and wait until it clears until you
    ship. 

    Do you really think they can't buy beautiful jewelry in Africa for
    less than you sell it? Think about why they contacted YOU. 

David Geller

From: "Ed" <diamondeddy2 AT insightbb.com>

    Stay away from anything to do with Nigeria. Nigeria, Indonesia, and
    Malaysia are your best bets for getting ripped off on the internet.Ed 

From: Roger Bowersox <metalqwerkx AT yahoo.com>

>     Don't you just hate it that you have to think this way?! 

    Not thinking 'this way' is what the confidence games and con-artists
    depend on. Whether it is an email letter, faith healer, or mystical
    energy channeler. 

    Does the email look anything like the Nigerian fraud emails on this
    website:
    http://www.popsubculture.com/pop/bio_project/nigeria-petroleum.html 

    Almost everything to do with Nigeria and emails is a fraud. But they
    do make a lot of money from the non-skeptical.
    http://www.japantoday.com/gidx/news217591.html Investigate it
    thoroughly and SKEPTICALLY. http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ 

    http://www.potifos.com/fraud/ This page contains 482 (and increasing)
    different form of Nigerian email scams. Also a short explanation of
    how they get email addresses, names, numbers, and your faith in them.
    At the bottom of the page are some links for more information. 

    There is a high probability that you will never see your work or
    payment if you send it anywhere near Nigeria. 

From: "joan963" <joan963 AT cox.net>

    I received the same email last night too.  It came late last night
    but my person started off by wanting to do it by credit card, but
    when I told them the price  they now  want to send a check and I told
    them that if they did that, that I wouldn't send the necklace until
    the check had cleared and she said that was fine.   It all seems too
    weird. She told me that she found my work on Silverhawk.  I find it
    very weird that  someone would buy a $3000 piece off the internet
    sight unseen... so I am being cautious too.  I told her that I would
    call UPS this AM and get the total in insurance and shipping and get
    back to her with the total.  I certainly am only going to give her my
    husband's business address ( he told me that I need to think about
    getting a p o box #)  if this does happen.. 

    I will keep you all informed.. If anyone else has any information, I
    sure would appreciate it.  It sure sounds like a scam, but I agree
    with Maryanne, I hate thinking this way.. 

Joan

From: Peter W.Rowe <peterrowe AT earthlink.net>

    A valid order could come from anywhere, but I suspect nigeria is an
    unlikely customer base.  The VISA number is the real givaway.  Call
    VISA, and ask them about it.  But in general, a good policy is to
    never ship anything to any address other than the verified address of
    the card holder unless you can, with certainty, verify that the order
    is from that valid card holder.  This would be especially true for
    addresses outside of your own country.   The situation you describe
    is a common scam, coming from a number of locations, including the
    U.S. 

From: "Pam Chott" <SongofthePhoenix AT pobox.com>

    Marianne, I got one too.  They said it was urgent. 

    There was no number given but they indicated they'd send credit card
    info as soon as I informed them of the total with shipping.  Message
    closed as "Mrs. Titi _ _ _ _  " (last name omitted) 

    I find this dilemma even more a concern as some credit card
    companies point out that we would violate our agreement with them if
    we should decline a purchase request because of country of origin. 

Pam Chott
Song of the Phoenix

From: "Alma Rands" <arands AT comcast.net>

    Hi Marianne.  I would be very cautious about this. The offer is most
    unusual I  have  gotten  several emails  from Nigeria  requesting
    that I assist in the transfer of funds from Nigeria to the U.S.  All
    they needed was my bank account number so they could make the
    transfer, and I would be given several hundred thousands of dollars 
    for  my help.    I don't fall  for schemes like  this, but sad to
    report   there was an  article in my local paper about several people
     in my area   who have  fallen for this scheme and have been
    defrauded out of thousands of dollars.   Your offer may be
    legitimate, but needs complete verification. The fact that the
    charge card is in someone else's name is really weird. Stolen credit
    card  number perhaps????? You are right, it is awful to have to be
    suspicious, but better suspicious than sorry.   Alma

From: James Binnion <jbin AT mokume-gane.com>

    Hi Marianne, This is a fraud, I got a similar email asking for a
    specific piece of my work.  It has been tried on several people and
    was written up in Crafts report I think 

    -- Jim Binnion

From: "Josh" <j_powell09 AT comcast.net>

    Nigeria is the source of so many fraudulent scams it is hard to
    believe some folks still have not heard of them. Their latest scam is
    the urgent request for you to sell them something and hurry up and
    send it UPS to them. And hurry up and give them a tracking number.
    Likely the UPS charge is higherthan the item purchased. If you reply
    to them they will also request you send them Cell phones or other
    items which they can easily resell. My advice is never take an out of
    the country credit card order. Of course you already know how risky
    it is to take a credit card order without seeing and imprinting the
    actual card. You will lose you credit card account if you do this. We,
    as artists and gemstone dealers, do a lot of shows and have the
    ability to take cards in various ways. The scammers know this and
    will try their luck with you. Good Luck Josh AT Coyote-Canyon.com


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