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From: Digest Post <orchid AT ganoksin.com> Date: Thu Dec 04 21:53:21 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== From: "Karen Bahr" <rocklady AT nucleus.com> Hello Kate and others > Aoccdrnig to a rseearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer > in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng > is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. Check out this website http://www.bisso.com/ujg_archives/000227.html as it actually describes this phenomenon. Karen Bahr "the Rocklady" (rocklady AT nucleus.com) From: Randolph Post <repost AT ji-net.com> Writing is easy! By Randolph Post It's really quite simple to present yourself in writing, and do so with a flair that is both interesting and communicative. Think about the way you design jewelry. Perhaps visual images of a design idea thump around in your head for a few days, or a few weeks if you are old like me. This design may evolve from the original idea as it becomes more concrete, and perhaps more sophisticated to your creative thinking. Eventually, your design may make it onto paper, becoming a physical illustration of what you have in mind. Over the course of time, you may modify this as the concept becomes clearer to your creative sense now that there is an image before your eyes. The lines become more compelling to your own sense of style. Some time later, the idea is translated into physicality, perhaps in wax, or some other easy to work with medium (I really have no idea what you people use, I am a writer by trade.) This is then "played with" some more, until you sense that your vision has been achieved (in my trade we call it "polishing.") Now you are ready to translate the result into precious metal, perhaps embellishing it with gems that round out your concept into a work of art that will both delight the eye of the viewer and cause him/her to reach for a credit card or purchase order. The bottom line is that the end result is the sum total of your own creative thought, you have "forced through your vision" into reality. Writing is much the same. First there is a dialogue in your head as you express your ideas to yourself. These are mentally rewritten as you clarify the point you wish to make, and the manner in which you wish to express it. This can be done over a matter of hours (or days etc. etc.) until you feel compelled to place your ideas on paper. By this time, you should be able to sit at the keyboard, empty your head of all conflicting thoughts, and just let it flow. Do not concern yourself with typos, spelling, or grammar at this point; just get it onto the page. This, like your jewelry design idea, is a rough illustration. What you have now is just like your paper or wax design, something to be played with (or polished if you want to use writer's jargon.) And this is exactly what you do, you play with it (or polish it) until you find that there is nothing left to change, modify, or restructure. Along the way, spelling and grammar corrections should be included. The end result is the sum total of your own creative thought, you have "forced through your vision" into reality, just like your jewelry designs. The point to remember is: you have used the same process you always use to create. See how easy it is? From: "Terri May" <toymasters AT hotmail.com> This is a silly thread. I know that I read Orchid for information, not for great literature. Now shall we get angry and intemperate with our colleagues for the use of slang? Loosen up. A bulletin board on the Internet is more easily compared to a casual telephone conversation or a post-it note; both of which are often communicated as linked fragments, not as correctly expressed and grammatically correct sentences and paragraphs. Pick your battles, and choose wisely. That said, I believe the original post was something more about business correspondence. I think that it was either a job offer, or a response to an offer. In either case, it is totally to the discretion of the writer as to how casual or formal, or how spontaneous or pompous, the writer might wish to convey his/her thoughts by the chosen writing style. If the recipient doesn't like it, that is the recipient's problem; and I believe this is a matter to be dealt with by it's participants. If the correspondent wishes to convey a spontaneous, carefree, "hip-to-the-internet" style, and the recipient has more of a conservative, formal, "by-the-book" style; well, they probably are not suited for an employment relationship anyhow. O please release me from the tedium of rants! (Guess I'll just have to stop reading them. Hmmm....what a concept....) --Terri From: "Cynthia Wiig" <ocean AT hawaii.rr.com> Hello All - It's been a long time since I've written to Orchid. Hope all is well in John Burgess' recovery. I'm so glad he can still type with all lower case! Please keep typing, John, you are truly an amazingly wonderful addition to Orchid! Jewelers do tend to be very detail oriented - it is the nature of our medium. I'm sure this quality carries over to the written word for many readers. However, I totally agree with Kate Wolf. I would hate to see individuals hesitate to write to Orchid - either with information or with questions because they are uncomfortable with the written word. And, yes, I agree with Daniel, that resumes and cover letters are very important documents that warrant correct English and grammar. Yes, everything we type here does go to the Orchid archives and yet, I also agree with April's comments - that email as a means of communication is closer to "talking" than say, writing an article, paper for school or a formal letter. And, yes, I do agree that having correct spelling - especially of jewelry terms in the "subject" header is important - especially for future searching of the archives. Still, with the origin of this forum in Thailand, I'm sure that the individuals that help Hanuman (and, many many thanks for the long hours you all must spend on this forum!) must have English as a second (or third language. English is very difficult - many words that sound the same with different spellings and have very different meanings. Spellcheck doesn't help with that level of error. It's amazing how many times I have written something - spent time in rereading it and press that "send" button and then, find a big error! I have to be comfortable with "perfectly imperfect". I do feel that the focus of this forum is not for editing as we read, but for sharing information. I especially would not want individuals with English as their second or third language to be intimidated to participate on Orchid. This is a global forum - and Orchid is one of the most amazing experiences I have been fortunate to be a part of. English was not one of my better subjects in school. Writing a "Jewelry Journal" article for Lapidary Journal was a real stretch for my writing abilities. It is very difficult to describe how to hammer metal in words - with the sensitivity to "feel" and "listen" to the sounds of the hammer blows. (I can't remember if I even mentioned that part of the process in the article.) As a moderate "techie" person - I get by with email, word documents, excel and photoshop - but, I have no idea what some of these codes mean, ie: HTH, IMPO, OTOH? Other than that, I don't mind reading lower case. I do appreciate when people add an extra space line between paragraphs, because the Ganoksin receiving program automatically runs all the text together unless there is an extra space line between paragraphs. In respect to those who are bothered by spelling errors, I am trying to get in the habit of using spellcheck. Hey, I never knew that I was spelling "wierd" wrong all my life. . . it's weird! So, spellcheck is fun, actually - but, it needs to become a habit. I still forget to use it sometimes, and prefer not to have it on constantly. Okay, yes, I am too wordy and I do use a lot of dashes when writing email - definitely not, when writing a formal letter. I am really fanatic for documents that warrant accuracy! I do know the code, IMHO (in my humble opinion), and "imho", email is actually closer to talking. That is one of the phenomenons of email communication that I find especially interesting - is to experience the "personalities" through the text. Also, I love knowing where people are writing from in our global community. Aloha and best wishes for the holidays! Cynthia (in Honolulu) p.s Hey, I just did spell check and it found no errors! Grammar check would be another story, I'm sure! :) From: "Cynthia Wiig" <ocean AT hawaii.rr.com> Okay - this is a perfect example of what my comments were trying to express: > p.s Hey, I just did spell check and it found no errors! Grammar > check would be another story, I'm sure! :) I had just sent this comment in an email to Orchid and after rereading it again just now, found the above gross grammatical error in my message. Ironic, because it was even in a statement about grammatical errors. (It was not an intentional error to make a point!) It probably should have read: "Hey, I just did spell check and it didn't find any errors!" or maybe, "and there were no errors". Oh well, I had already pressed the "send" button. Ordinarily, I would just let it slide (along with all the other "errors" in my original message) - but, because of the subject of this piece of communication, I wanted to let whomever is reading it know that there is a LOT of room for error in writing email. To me, it's better to just let a lot of the grammatical errors slide as long as the information is conveyed correctly. I sure don't have enough time in my day to keep editing. Speaking of time . . . it's time to travel on . . . Have a productive December everyone . . . Cynthia From: "Annette Andres" <readwow AT hotmail.com> > IMPO. This gives me an opportunity to ask a question about an abbreviation I see on some Orchid posts. What does the (Yak) stand for in the subject line? Annette From: "Patricia Hicks" <earthings AT worldnet.att.net> Perhaps if more people used the Archives and noticed that postings are there from the beginning, now and ever shall be, for posterity, they might feel just a little more inclined to make an effort at correctness. Give it a try everyone . You'll be amazed. Pat From: "Christine Denayer" <cdenayer AT highvision.net> Hi All, I just arrived in Belgium, still having a headache. I read Daniel Spirer's message and cannot resist to drop a note. Daniel, I absolutely agree with you - we're not talking about people here like myself who's first language is not English - I still find it hard, I still make mistakes and I still hate it - but about people who think they don't have to respect punctuation and don't use capitals. Frankly, I think it's a question of being lazy and disrespectful to language, because, after all, what is the advantage of not using punctuation or capitals? I do not know any details about this, but I know that almost everywhere in the world, a lot of thesises are being written about the question what the new media do to our language skills and I believe that the picture - although double of course - is ultimately quite gloomy. Call me a conservative if you want - which would be the first time ever I think - but I would never engage someone who's letter or email is without correct punctuation. A couple of years ago, a student wrote a thesis which I had to evaluate. He absolutely refused to use any capitals, but he was an anarchist and had come up with dozens and dozens of articles proving - completley incorrectly in my view - the link between conformism in authoritarian societies on the one hand and the use of 'belles lettres' in these societies - I let it go. For the rest, a sentence begins with a capital and ends with a period. Then another sentence begins, developing an argument or a message. Furthermore, any text is always an amalgam of many 'texts'. Any change changes everything. This is easy to understand: suppose that you and me are in a room having a discussion. The discussion is recorded and subsequently typed out on a page without anything more. Now suppose that the discussion is typed out again, but this time the secretary adds information like the one you can find in the text of a theatre piece - he sighs - long silence - gets nervous, etc. Now suppose you let these texts read by several people, asking them to explain what is going on. Their interpretation will differ according to the information given. Now suppose that you will give the text with and without punctuation - the interpretation will differ again, due to all sorts of effects. I for example, will be inclined to take it less serious. Maybe I'm getting old - which could make sense on my birthday - but I believe that something like civilization is at stake in these matters. Bon, let's eat - :. 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