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From: Jay Callen
Date: Thu Dec 04 21:25:56 2003
 
     
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    I am also interested in ideas for floor covering over cement.  Four
    years ago, I put twelve inch "press and stick"  floor tiles on the
    work area of my garage.   They made it easier to locate dropped
    items and prevented the "dings" in my metal that the  occurred with
    the concrete. 

    The tiles were fine until this summer.  After an unusually heavy
    rain storm in the heat of the summer, portions of three or four
    began to bubble up.  No water got in the garage and there are no
    apparent changes to anything else.  The garage also has a new roof
    and there were no leaks. Home Depot and Lowes said that moisture
    must have gotten under the slab and that I should have installed a
    vapor barrier under the tile.  Only problem is the vapor barrier
    can't be glued to the concrete  either.  It must be attached and
    they had no suggestions for doing only part of the garage. 

    The process to remove the tiles and the glue is horrendous.   I have
    just been replacing the tiles one at a time, but it takes about 30
    minutes a tile to remove. The parts of each tile that haven't
    bubbled up are really stuck to the concrete.  The lumber yard
    suggested putting tempered masonite over the tiles, but so far I've
    drug my feet on doing that.  Dragging my feet is what worries me.  
    It seems like the masonite would be a real trip hazard unless I did
    the whole garage rather than just my work area. The lumber yard
    suggested making a 1 x 2 perimeter border to hold the masonite in
    place. 

    Right now I just wish I had never put the tiles down and just
    learned to be more careful.  It would have been a lot easier.  If
    anyone has any ideas, they'd really be appreciated. 

Thanks,
Jay


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