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From: James Binnion Date: Mon Oct 06 23:30:32 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > "Boric acid is converted to borax when heated to soldering > temperatures." Hi Jim, That sounds reasonable but, if that's true, > why do we flux and/or firecoat with boric acid at all? I knew as soon as I sent this I knew I should have been more clear and detailed. I apologize for not fully engaging brain before posting. What happens is that both borax and boric acid break down into boron trioxide at high temperatures (1067F (575C) for boric acid and 1392F (765C) for borax). So boric acid does not really break down into borax rather they both decompose into boron trioxide and with borax there is also sodium metaborate produced as a part of the decomposition process. Boron trioxide is the active ingredient in the dissolving of metallic oxides. Copper oxides which are our biggest problem are converted into copper metaborate when they come in contact with the boron trioxide. These metaborates are water soluble and are dissolved away in the pickle after soldering. In the case of borax flux the copper metaborate mixes with the sodium metaborate that was produced in the decomposition of the borax and is transported away from the surface which allows more boron trioxide to contact the metal oxides on the surface of the metal and further reduce the copper oxides. With boric acid on the other hand there is only the boron trioxide left after decomposition (boric acid H2B4O7 breaks down into boron trioxide and water vapor) which is sticky and very viscous at temperatures below 1650F (900C). While it still reacts with the metallic oxides to form metaborates it is so viscous that the metaborates are not transported away from the surface and there fore limits the amount of oxides that can be dissolved so it is an inferior flux at temperatures below 1650F (900C). On items like high carat yellow golds there is so little copper oxide formed that the boric acid and alcohol fire-coat is sufficient to remove them. However on lower carat and red or nickel white golds better fluxes and fire-coats (Prip's flux is one good choice) will work much better at protecting the surfaces from fire stain and and promoting good solder flow. Also as I am sure you know but for the record neither boric acid and alcohol or Prip's are soldering fluxes they are fire-coats. They provide protection from oxidation on the rest of the piece while soldering, you need to use a soldering flux at the area(s) you are joining. Many soldering fluxes like Batterns and Handy Flux have borax as the main component but they also have other compounds like chlorides, fluorides and carbonates added to both reduce the temperature that the fluxing action takes place at and to help in dissolving the more difficult oxides (like the silicon dioxide referred to in recent posts). A lot more information on fluxes ant their formulations and actions is available in Brepohl's "Theory and Practice of Goldsmithing". > I mean, why not just use straight borax in solution (alcohol)? > Wouldn't that do the same thing (and possibly be less expensive)? Unfortunately borax is not soluble in alcohol. Also its melting temperature is considerably higher than boric acid (see above) so it will provide less protection at lower soldering temperatures. > While I'm asking flux-related questions, I'd like to add another: > is there a "correct" alcohol to add to the mix, for fluxing? I > seem to recall having been told to use denatured alcohol, each > time I've taken classes, but the batch I made up using a can > purchased at the local Ace Hardware (with boric acid) immediately > coats everything in a black, sugary coating, the second I heat it > with my torch. (This is after cleaning the pieces thoroughly, then > pickling and neutralizing the pickle in a baking soda-and-water > mixture.) Is it the alcohol? The torch (a blazer torch)? Something > else I'm not comprehending? Can you please lend a hand in > demystifying this for me? I use denatured alcohol (ethanol with something added to make it non-drinkable, often methanol) that I get from the hardware store. I don't have the kind of reaction you are referring to . I think ethanol is probably the safest and easiest to obtain type of alcohol to use (methanol is just too poisonous ). I don't know what might be causing your black, sugary coating but I wonder if you are completely rinsing the sodium bicarbonate solution off of the work before soldering. That might be a problem. I use it after pickling but follow it with an ultrasonic cleaning and rinse in pure water. Jim ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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