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From: Alden & Glenda Blood Date: Thu Oct 02 01:10:57 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Hello Bruce and the responders to this thread. Fluoboric acid could be an effective pickling agent for the alloys containing silicon that have been giving problems with soldering. Fluoboric acid (HBF4) is used in commercial processes for cleaning metal before electroplating. The acid is effective in removing oxide and silicate films that may be on the metal surface. The ability of fluoboric acid to dissolve silicon materials is confirmed in section K of MSDS 6008 (General Chemical Corporation) where it is noted that the acid is corrosive to glass, ceramic and metals. Noble metals are not attacked by the acid to any appreciable extent. Fluoboric acid/hydrogen peroxide mixtures have been recommended for removal of soft solder in at least two publications (B. Knuth, Jeweler's Resource, First Ed., Jewelers Press, p. 46 and Oppi Untracht, Metal Techniques For Craftsmen, 1968, p. 182) Please note that Bruce Kunth confirmed a typographical error for the name of the acid. That error has been corrected in the 2000 edition. He has used the fluoboric acid/hydrogen peroxide system for soft solder removal from gold jewelry and found it satisfactory. Fluoboric acid is provided as a 48% solution in water. It is stable but should not be boiled. If silicon forms a layer on heating as suggested by James Binnion, it might be necessary before soldering to heat the work to near soldering temperatures, cooling in standard pickle and then dipping in the fluoboric acid. The acid does not appear to be any more hazardous or difficult to work with than the other strong and corrosive acids frequently used, based on the information in the MSDS. It surely is not in the same class as hydrofluoric acid. One source for the acid is Chemical Associates in Pennsylvania. They quote a price of $26.03 for a liter of the 48% solution. This is just a suggestion. I have not tried it. The information available suggests it should work if silicates are the cause of the problems cited. However, there sometimes is a "slip twix the cup and the lip" so a trial should proceed with caution I have not had the problem so far even although 90% of the repair work I see is 10K. Captain Blood "Marlinespike Seamanship in Precious Metals" mariner AT tgtel.com ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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