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From: William Denayer
Date: Mon Sep 29 19:35:36 2003
 
     
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>     Mr. Denayer 

    It's Doctor Denayer, btw. 

>      You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

    Well thank you. I know it's often a problem. 

    Mister George, I am sure that you know a *lot* more about 3D design
    than I do. In commenting, I was not questioning your expertise in
    this domain, nor do I question the qualities of the program you speak
    about. I objected to other things. Yes, I know what a hybrid modeler
    is and I have sensed the power of it. You tell me, since my
    assumptions are old school, what is, according to you, the time
    necessary to learn this program so that one can use it confidently
    and creatively? Let's operationalize this. What is the time needed to
    make a ring with 3 prong settings in this program for someone who has
    never done this? Let's say that we talking here about two persons
    with a 20 % higher IQ than average, the first has no experience with
    3D whatsoever, and the second knows how to handle Rhino. What is your
    estimate? And about the costs. What will the final cost be for these
    individuals to have the wax model (or whatever) in their hands, so
    that the final product can be made, from the beginning to the end of
    the line? Well? 

>     My intentions were to offer information, and to offer *freely* my
>     experience so you may benefit. Many here know what I bring to the
>     table as expertise and I can back up everything I say with actions 

    No, you don't. You are referring to an outdated model of
    information. It's impossible to seperate facts from values. Your
    information will always be biased in some sense. There is no
    objectivity. 

>     When you say *you people*, I will assume that you think I am just
>     a software solution provider. I actually own a manufacturing
>     business that utilizes high tech solutions, and further, I own a
>     Company that manufactures Aerospace Components, therefore I hope
>     that sets the record straight on that note. I fully comprehend the
>     requirements necessary to get involved in the high tech arena, and
>     I fully appreciate the commitment it takes to make it a success, so
>     please do not lecture me on whether I know anything about running a
>     business or not. 

    This is all very well, but you are obviously not a jeweler and
    certainly not a small scale jeweler, i.e. the type I admire the most
    in this trade, the man or woman who tries to make everything or most
    of what s/he sells her/himself, the sort of artisan if you want, or
    perhaps even artist if s/he is really good at what s/he does. Quite
    frankly, and I do not mean this as an insult at all, I think that you
    are completely off reality here if you assume that (most?) people
    like this have the means (financial and timewise) to make this kind
    of investment. It's simple isn't feasible for many, since many
    jewelers work under constant pressure already: pieces have to be
    made and sold or the liquid stuff will be on the table ( a crime
    against humanity).  

>     The information I provided was intended for you not to have to
>     rely on a liquid lunch. The whole intention was for you to receive
>     information that may, or may not benefit you, and actually allow
>     you to eat a solid meal. Productivity in my opinion equates to more
>     time off not less. If you are more productive in less time by
>     utilizing smart solutions then for me that's the bottom line. 

    Well, this can be answered easily. Browsing through literature after
    my solid meal, most if not all serious sociologists of labor etc.
    hold (and have proven) that, since the seventies, the working
    population in the first world (the most industrialized countries)
    have been working more, not less, while this has not been making life
    more easy. On the contrary. It's easy to refer to a parameter such as
    the GNP of a country, but this is a falsification because it tells
    you nothing except the productivity itself and only in a very limited
    and fundamentally unreal way. There are other parameters such as the
    human development index. Fundamentally, the relationship between
    rising productivity and more satisfaction in life is *far* more
    complex that you suggest. 

    This technology is not within the reach of the people I spoke about
    and I think you know it too, but that you don't care about it. This
    technology is meant to be used by manufacturers which produce many
    pieces, simply, because it is designed for it. So, if we see 50,000
    of exactly the same rings on the market next year, perhaps they were
    made with this program. Yes, productivity increased. 

Best, Will


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