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From: William Denayer
Date: Sat Sep 27 22:44:16 2003
 
     
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    Mr. George, I do not like your answers to Karen Goeller. 

>     In my opinion price means little at the end of the day when it
>     comes to calculating productivity which equals profits.

    Sure, but at the end of which day? Let's take the example you
    provide: an individual designs 8 hours a day, 5 day a week, so s/he
    saves 20 % of the time, which is to say one day, and, hurray, given
    your calculation, s/he makes an additional $ 12,000 a year. Which
    year? First, there is practically no individual which can do this
    unless a very rich one: s/he simply does not have the time, remember
    s/he is a jeweler with a business, as most of us are. And second, you
    don't reckon with a learning curve at all. It will take some time -
    for Rhino it is typically between one of two years - before one can
    use the program with confidence and with sufficient skill to produce
    the models you have in mind. And since this tool - as all tools -
    changes the way you work and think (after all, you are not going to
    render in Rhino what you can do with your hands already), something
    else is involved here, namely acquiring a new style, thinking about
    aesthetics in a new way, exploring the possibilities, changing the
    way you look at things. It will take quite a while. One day you will
    make profits. The truth is that no one knows which day this will be.
    This is just something that you people say. Your third point is
    misinformed by this logic too: if a company, you say, does not
    accumulate enough money to progress further on in two years, then
    there is something wrong with that business. You completely argue
    away the points I make here. 

>       In reality justification should be governed by productivity. Your
>     investment in everyday tools in the kitchen like food processors
>     attest to the fact that we do indeed look for time saving
>     solutions. Yes home cooking like mama used to make, is all very
>     nice and gives us all a warm feeling, but who has the time today to
>     prep all of the required ingredients with just a knife.

    This is not so and things tend to be more complex than the
    ideologues of productivity say they are. Basically, one day in the
    West, people used to work so that they could enjoy the good life -
    and eating well is certainly part of that enjoyment, but we have all
    forgotten about that and the scandal is that all sort of ideological
    institutions in our society call this progress (and freedom, etc.).
    There is already liquid food on the market, which only takes a couple
    of seconds to digest, so I'm sure we can increase productivity even
    more if we would all drink it and skip dinners altogether. This
    decision makes perfect sense if decisions should be governed by
    productivity.  

>        It would be selfish and self serving of the student to become my
>     or anyone else's competitor at a tenth of what I invested to get
>     the same thing. I am a firm believer in "if you wanna play, you
>     gotta pay". The sweat and tears that myself and many others put
>     into building a business, only to have someone enter the same arena
>     without the grief and financial commitment that we went through.
>     That in my opinion is not right. I believe that if an individual or
>     a business is investing in any form or manner in software and
>     hardware, then they should be protected, and not undermined in any
>     shape or form.

    In other words, competition has to be complete, lest the results
    which markets create will be distorted and unfair. Proponents of this
    logic typically often use the picture of a bicycle race: we all start
    together and the one who comes in first is the winner because he is
    the strongest, the most capable one. However, in society, such races
    do not exist naturally, which is the reason why we *organize* them.
    Situations at the beginning are never equal, indeed, there is no
    beginning as society is made up of several generations and many, many
    other relevant differences. There is no altruism involved here.
    Educational prices increase the number of people using the product,
    which, as a result of this, may lower prices of the product in
    general. Educational prices bring the product in contact with the
    developers and the users of tomorrow, i.e. the people who are likely
    going to innovate the product and we're not against progress, are we?
    Other arguments can be made for educational prices on the basis of
    sound economic reasoning. Educational prices distort the market in no
    other way than the introduction of the product distorted the market
    to begin with. There is no reason why this could not be accepted as a
    mere fact of life, to be reckoned with when purchasing a software
    program. 

Will Denayer 


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