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From: Peter W . Rowe Date: Mon Sep 15 23:09:11 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > This piece is two sided so now I must yellow ochre the previously > soldered gold pieces and turn it over and Prips the second side > and solder the gold on that side. I can't use Prips over the > ochered side or it will "bleed" the ochre or white out and then > it's not safe any more to assume it won't remelt those soldered > pieces. Annette, Yellow Ochre only prevents molten solder from flowing out onto the ochred areas. think of it as just dirt. Solder likes clean metal, not dirty metal, so it doesn't flow out onto the ochred areas. BUT. Ochre does not prevent the solder from melting at all. Pieces soldered on, and covered with ochre, can still fall off or shift just as easily, though the solder holding them won't, in the process, flow onto the ochred areas. The key to this sort of work is simply not using an excess of solder in the first place. When a solder joint is made, the solder at least partially diffuses into the metal being joined, and in the process, the composition of the solder is altered towards that of the joined metal. That both raises it's melting point a bit, and makes it harder to flow again. So if you don't over use the solder in the first place, then you should be able to turn the sheet over and solder again, without needing ochre to hold the previous joint in position. Try it. solder your first pieces, and clean up any excess solder. Then try your other side, with prips, and without any ochre. It should work just fine. You actually only quite rarely need ochre. It's needed when you're doing things like reheating the intricately mated parts of a catch or hinge, where any slight solder flow into the mechanism would freeze it up, or similar situations. Just to keep pieces in place that are just soldered to the side of sheet metal isn't what it does well, since as I said, it doesn't actually hold things down, nor does it prevent the solder from melting. If the piece would fall off without the ochre, it can fall off just as easily with it. Now, if you DO have a situation where you need ochre, use just a little bit, as a narrow line where you need to block solder flow, or itself flowed into the gap you wish to keep solder out of. Exposed outer areas rarely need it. Dry it well with a torch, even letting it slightly discolor, and then spray on your prips right over the top. If the metal is properly pre heated, the prips won't go on wet, and won't disturb the ochre. Should work fine. Peter ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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