[Jewelry making - Article 00007] - Re: [Orchid] Gemstone treatments

[Steve Green]

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Gerry,

    If you wish to quote and discuss/argue what I actually wrote then
    please do so. I welcome a good educating discussion. However, please
    do not make up things then put my name on them as you did in a
    recent post. 

    The following is a quote from your Orchid post: 

>     I disagree with Steve Green about the heat treatment being done by
>     ignorant miners by a campfire with a coffee can and sand.

    What I actually wrote was: 

    "IMO they are not the same as a treatment which can be done on a
    campfire in a tin-can full of sand by man 300 years ago or today." 

    My point was that modern technology (super high temps & irradiation)
    are not used for some simple treatments and this deserves
    consideration and distinction in my opinion. 

    And then you go on to say in the same paragraph addressing me: "I
    disagree that heat treating should not be disclosed at the sale" 
    which implies that I think it should not be disclosed.   I NEVER
    SAID (or think) ANY SUCH THING !!!         

    And then in the same paragraph addressing me and my past post you go
    on to talk about honesty and dishonesty, again making implications
    to me and other gemstone dealers. 

    Gerry, let's set the record straight. 

    1)  I feel all gem treatments should be disclosed. Please do not
    infer otherwise. 

    2)  You blatantly misquoted me. Adding the word "ignorant" changed
    the entire meaning of what I said. 

    3)  Then you bring into question my and ALL gem merchants honesty
    with your final words "Now to the honesty question. (snip) Why do you
    not disclose heat treating? " How do you know what I and ALL others
    do or don't do? Stop generalizing! 

    In this case your actions and words do not serve to educate, clarify
    or inform this forum, but only add to the confusion when you
    misquote and make false inferences. Whether you believe it or not
    there are many many many natural untreated gems out there. All is
    not as dark as you tend to paint it. 

    I think after your last post, the honesty question (who is and who
    isn't honest) is very clear.  I think you owe me and Orchid an
    apology and a retraction for your less than honest inferences and
    made up quotes attributed to me.  

    To the rest of the Orchid List: Sorry to air my gripes, but I feel
    that after such a blatant misrepresentation of what I said in past
    posts I had to set the record straight. 

    Despite the tone of this email I am having fun, and hopefully
    helping others understand the gem treatment issues  : ) 

    sincerely,     Steve Green / Rough and Ready Gems  

    Your source for fine natural and treated gemstone briolettes. More
    naturals than treated too. (And I'll tell you which are which.) 
    www.briolettes.com 




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