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From: Allan Heywood Date: Fri Feb 28 23:55:26 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== > I have used both and believe me, fine is the only way to go. Pat - there are literally millions of cast and stamped Sterling silver pieces still floating around e.g. the Charles Horner Art Nouveau stuff - and I defy anyone to get more reflectivity using cast 999 fine silver than the majority of those pieces. Hundreds of thousands of Sterling compacts, pill boxes, vanity sets picture frames etc have been made and many of them are still in existence. Although most of them weren't cast, the principle is the same - you are not enamelling on the Sterling alloy itself, but on a layer of pure silver. The surface of an object made of 999 fine silver and the surface of an adequately depletion-enriched 925 Ag or for that matter 800 Ag object will appear IDENTICAL once they have been heated to redness, with or without vitreous enamel covering them. They will be a uniform, flat, no-gloss silvery-white regardless of whether or not they were highly polished prior to firing. If you have brought up a substantial, even layer of pure silver on the surface of your Sterling that is what you will see through the enamel. If there are no casting flaws e.g. pits, inclusions, etc - and there rarely ever are if the piece is cast using the best of the available technology by some one who actually knows what they are doing - then you will have no problems. Problems invariably occur when people attempt to enamel castings they or their mates or the bloke down the road have produced. While these might be perfectly adequate for the average bit of jewellery nothing but the highest quality castings will survive multiple heatings to bright redness unscathed. > Also it should be minimum of 18 ga. Walk into any antique dealer and inspect some old enamelled Sterling jewellery. Yes, you can fire/pickle/fire/pickle sterling until the surface has no copper or zinc Sterling contains no Zinc - if there is Zinc there it ain't Sterling. left, but even then you are walking a treacherous path with the stability of colors and transparences. The incompatability with silver of enamels containing colloidal gold is well-known and occurs when there is ANY amount of silver in the surface to be enamelled - it is irrelevant whether one uses Sterling, 999 silver, or gold alloys containing silver. It is an entirely separate problem. Here are some pictures of Sterling pieces and one 18k yellow piece I've enamelled, including two Horner brooches and the hatpin yesterday ( hatpin is < 0.3mm thick - try making that out of 999 fine silver and expecting to use it without it folding up at the first push) The pendants are about 0.5mm thick, the brooches, 2mm, the frogs were new work for a Melbourne jeweller: http://users.netconnect.com.au/~pictures/Sterling_01.jpg http://users.netconnect.com.au/~pictures/Sterling_02.jpg http://users.netconnect.com.au/~pictures/Sterling_03.jpg http://users.netconnect.com.au/~pictures/Sterling_04.jpg http://users.netconnect.com.au/~pictures/18k_01.jpg cheers Allan Heywood ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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