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From: Ton / Ganoksin Date: Sun Feb 23 22:06:14 2003 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== From: Linda Walsh <Linda.Walsh AT rcn.com> Hi Karen, Sometimes I see this marketed in a more explicit (and honest) way as Mt. Saint Helen's GLASS. There was a lot of it right after the eruption several years ago; I haven't seen it in quite a while. It's not very durable, so it's probably not appropriate for anything other than costume jewelry. Linda From: "Connie" <mollie2dot AT qwest.net> Karen, no new classification of gems was formed at the time of the Mt. St. Helen's eruption, no new find of any kind of gems was unearthed. What I've seen as "Helenite," is soda lime glass utilizing -- well so they SAY-- ash from the eruption as a component of the glass in the manufacturing process. It is NOT glass formed spontaneously by nature. I don't know if the glass can be physically or chemically pedigreed, or if it's indistinguishable from similar glasses.... Is it rare? Don't know, keeps showing up in quantity. Not limited to any specific color(s). Do you think they are worth looking at for use in some jewelry pieces in a mid-range market? Why not? Look at the prices a Lalique can command these days. He used soda lime glass. Best wishes, Connie From: Peter W.Rowe <PWRowe1 AT attbi.com> Karen These are not recent. They've been around for quite a while. I've seen them for sale in the Pike Place market stalls, and some local jewelery outlets (cheaper ones), since pretty soon after the eruption. In essence, they are glass. The exact origin of the glass is a bit hazy. It's not legal for producers to obtain ash from within the Mt. St. Helens park areas, and they don't. So the raw material comes from some ways a way. Further, it can't be just plain volcanic ash, since, at least so far as I've been told, the ash from that eruption generally was basaltic in chemistry. that means very little, if any, silica, and a material that doesn't make a good transparent glass. I used to think they were just taking a standard glass mix, and adding traces of ash to get a color. It's also possible they've simply found other rocks, somehow affected by the eruption, perhaps thrown out from the eruption, but not the actual ash, that were by chance, high silica, such as granite boulders or somithing, thrown by the force of the eruption, but originally just surface rock. I don't know this, it's just a guess. The usual volcanic ash from st Helens, though, doesn't form a nice clear green glass when you try to melt it. As to your other questions, well, use your common sense. Most of it is marketing, plus they're a pretty green. But it IS just a glass, manmade, from presumably an interesting natural source material. I doubt that will ever increas in value beyond the already somewhat substantial prices they ask for the stuff as it is. If you're really curios, I think the local "made in washington" stores carry the stuff in some tourise quality jewelery. i seem to recall little business card things along with them that happened to mention a chemical analysis. I can try, next week, to look that up for you if you like. Peter Rowe From: Jim <jsmall47 AT earthlink.net> Karen - This material is a manmade glass, and much of it doesn't have anything remotely from Mt. St. Helens in it. In short, a scam of magnificent proportions! I recently met the "entrepreneur" who claims he originated this material, and he said that it is only glass. He said a lot of other things about how gullible people were, etc. The stones first appeared shortly (about 18 months) after the big eruption. They have periodically had reappearances in the marketplace since then, and to the best of my knowledge they have all been a manmade green glass. Jim Small Small Wonders From: Gary Bourbonais <gwb AT execpc.com> Hi List.... Seen this material in two forms to date.... As I understand it, it's a type of glass.... In one form it's the Mt. St. Helen glass (obsidian), that's melted and purified, and then re-colored and cut.... The other kind is glass produced from Mt. St. Helen ash...again, colored and then cut... Both kinds claim to use as base material stuff from the eruption of fame... Have no idea on the value, rarity, etc..... Gary W. Bourbonais From: Dave Arens <gemstonesetc AT gci-net.com> Hi Karen, I've never put any of this stuff through any gemological tests, but a number of dealers who sell jewelry that contains it tell me it's glass. According to them, some of it (emerald green colored obsidian) was found near Mt St.Helen after the last eruption. The original find was used up quickly & what's being sold today is man made. Based on a couple of dealers who've been selling the stuff at the Tucson show since it hit the market I'd say it has staying power. I don't know if I'd call it a 'fad' or not, but because of the price point it's marketed in & the appealing color it seems to sell. Both the dealers I talked to set it in 14K gold. Dave ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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