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From: Richard Hughes Date: Sat Mar 23 01:24:12 2002 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== Greetings, Note: The following was provided to us by our friend, Rob Lavinsky. We have also received several of these orders from Indonesia, the Philippines and Romania and so caution all who are doing business via mail order to beware. EXPANDED NOTE TO ALL DEALERS: In the past several days since I posted a warning note, I have heard from over a dozen people hit by this crime and I almost lost 12K myself, and so I am expanding my message here in the hopes that word will spread. A ring of credit card thieves from Indonesia has been trying to purchase gold and gem crystals, gem collectibles, etc., using stolen card numbers. Beware of large orders of such items! These are convertible goods and they will then pawn these items for cash, leaving you to eat the monetary damages! Once the legitimate cardholder reports the fraudulent use of the card, they will get a refund and 60-90 days later the credit card company will withdraw the funds from your account. YOU are liable for the money if you did not verify the cardholder's identity first by confirming the billing address, as per the most recent VISA/MC regulations and recommendations. They have computer-predicted numbers only, and do not have the billing address info needed to assure that the numbers are legitimate. If you have any doubts, ask the customer to confirm billing addresses and then call the cardholder's bank to confirm that the card really belongs to that owner, particularly when the order is from Indonesia, Singapore, the UK, and Romania (this info according to MBNA Bank's loss prevention department, whom I called recently). Several of us have been hit by a "gentleman" named Ikwan using aliases such as "johnny panther" and "andy jesus". Apparently, they run small charges of pennies to $1 on thousands of predicted numbers til they find a "hit," and then use that valid card number for purchases, even while the owner never notices the test charge that went through. They will use the cards to order $2500-3000 at a time, and spread large orders over 4-5 cards! You will get the money because the cards ARE good...they do not come back with a fraud rating until reported. However, the money will just be taken away later. Better to be careful now. The bank reps that I talked to were COMPLETELY resigned to this as a perennial OLD problem, that is new only to us. They were totally unsurprised when I called. FOR SECURITY, VISA/MC now encourages card acceptors to confirm billing address of customers with each transaction, for the best discount rates and for maximal protection against card fraud. I personally participate in this program, despite the slight extra bit of time it takes to run charges. It is obviously worth the slight additional time required! To customers, please note that this problem has absolutely nothing to do with your personal decision to spend money on the net or use cards for online orders! These criminals are not getting their number from vendors you have shopped with on the web, but rather by computer prediction of valid numbers and trial & error. Any card information you provide to me (and to most vendors) is completely secure, and i verify all billing addresses precisely for the reason of avoiding such fraudulent use of your card numbers. This situation is a problem for dealers... While the customer is fully protected by your credit card providers, we are not. Warmest regards, Richard Hughes ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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