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From: Edwards, Robert Date: Tue Feb 01 18:46:10 2000 |
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========[ Invite a Friend - http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ]======== In response to your post on Orchid, here are my thoughts on the issue, having done all my own gold fabrication for the last couple years: If this is a one-time, or very occasional need, you are better off just calculating VERY carefully what you need, and then ordering the stock from a supplier. You don;t want to end up with a lot of scrap, or run short and pay two shipping charges. The major problem with this is cost, in two different ways -- first, if you only order a few pennyweights, the markup on the gold itself is enormous. Second, the fabrication charges are very high. But you need some investment of tools and time to make your own, and you won't get paid back for the tools until you've done a few ounces of stock. If you are doing this regularly, there are a lot of advantages to making your own: the major one is you don't have to stock all kinds of different sizes, shapes, and carats. When you need a bit of 18g 14k wire, you just make a button, roll it out, draw it a couple times, and there you are. You substitute a one-time investment in the tools for recurring high markups and waits on receiving stock. You can spend a couple hours making a "master sheet" size, say 22g, in alloys you use all the time, then when you need a 30g piece for something delicate, ten minutes with your annealing torch and rolling mill, and you have exactly what you need. You can recycle your own unsoldered scrap, and not lose more money to discounts from refiners. And finally, you can, with some looking, buy gold at MUCH smaller markups than even buying casting grain from the major refiners, never mind what the jewelry distributors charge! I find that making my own stock makes my gold work more price competitive, as well, and I definitely price my fabrication labor into the final numbers. Recently, I bid on a job making 14kt gold fountain pen nibs for a pen vendor. The total gold order was just over 4 ounces, and I was able to reduce my final bid by almost 20% by making the sheet stock myself, rather than buying, even at a 100 dwt price level. I normally buy gold online from one of several coin and metals dealers, and try to pay 3% or less over NY spot, delivered. I can almost always hit 3%, and have gotten as low as 2.1% over spot on a few occasions. Generally, I buy 1 oz Maple Leaf coins. I try to buy on the market dips, as well. This is a price that you would only get from the refiners if you bought several hundred dwt of casting grain at a time, and you would still be doing the fabrication yourself. I do a lot of work on spec, and probably could not afford to work with high carat golds if I didn't do my own fabrication. And, the coins are instantly convertable to cash, if needed, and take a much smaller hit on the spread than selling fabricated goods to a refiner (on which you lose the entire fabrication charge, as well as the spread on the scrap buy price). Here's what you are looking at up front, in terms of equipment: Rolling mill -- this is the big one, minimum of $200 for the cheapest Indian import, more like $600 to get a Durston mini or similar one that will stand up to everyday use and take thick ingots, saving you the labor of hammering them down to 3 mm, which is the max the cheaper mills can handle. Ingot molds -- combo wire and plate, about $45, and a long wire mold, about $30 (very handy if you do a lot of wire work) Draw plates for wire -- $10 cheapest to $30-45 for good ones. How many different shapes do you want to make? Draw tongs -- $15, or use a pair of vice grips that you already have. Melting torch or furnace: You can't do this with a hardware store propane or with the Little Torch (yes I know the LT has a melting tip -- trust me, it won't do what you want). I use a Prestolite air / acetylene with the largest "turbo tip". Works fine, just takes a little longer. Total cost about $150. Or, if you already have oxy/fuel equipment, get a melting torch or old welding torch with a big tip for $50-120. The ideal setup is a HandyMelt electric melter, which will run $400 up (used for $400). Too pricy for me, since I have the other torch anyway. Melting dish or crucible and handle -- $15-20. You should have separate ones for gold and silver, the fastidious ones use separate crucible for each alloy. Flux -- 20 mule team borax from the grocery store, 75/25 mix with boric acid. $5 for enough to last you forever. Fireproof surface to work on -- I have a slate paver from Home Depot, $5, and an old cast-iron skillet to set the mold in (free). The rolling mill is something you will want eventually if you are a working goldsmith, even if you buy some stock. Once you have one, you will wonder how you ever did without it, it's that handy. And you can do roller texturing as well. Hope this long-winded explanation helps. You're going to hear "your labor is worth more in making stuff". Maybe, if you work in a jewelry store and the boss buys the stock inventory-- but if you work for yourself, it doesn't take long to pay back the initial investment, and you bill each project time for the fabrication work anyway, so who cares? For production series, maybe I'd buy the stock; but maybe not, as well, as per the pen nibs example. Buying saves time, but costs $$. The tradeoff is up to you, as always. Regards, Bob Edwards Chromis Designs Washington, DC ____________________________________________________________________ T h e O r c h i d L i s t Open Electronic Forum for Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Procedures ____________________________________________________________________ Orchid FAQ: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/faq.htm Orchid Archives: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/archive Orchid Galleries: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/orchid/gallery.htm Invite a Friend: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/invite.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Tips From The Jeweler's Bench - Article Archive ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm The Jeweler's Selected Bibliography List ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/jewelry-books Buy Orchid Jewelry: ~ http://www.ganoksin.com/shop ____________________________________________________________________ -Unsubscribe: -Email: orchid-request AT ganoksin.com Body=unsubscribe subject=blank ____________________________________________________________________ |
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